ATF reinforces gun ban for marijuana users

The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is clarifying its position on marijuana and reaffirming its stance against allowing MMJ patients and recreational users from owning firearms.

The ban could mean millions of dollars in lost sales for medical marijuana dispensaries in particular if patients decline to renew their MMJ cards so they purchase a gun. The warning could put a chill on some rec sales, too.

Form 4473, the federal Firearms Transaction Record, includes an updated reminder that gun buyer applicants should be aware marijuana remains illegal at the federal level – even when it’s legal at the state level – according to the Denver Post.

The ATF’s revised document goes into circulation on Jan. 16, 2017, with language explicitly stating “the use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.”

“Since more states have legalized medicinal and recreational marijuana use since 2012, ATF took the opportunity to clarify existing federal law regarding marijuana use and gun ownership,” Lisa Meiman, a public information officer at the ATF’s Denver Field Division, told the Post. “Nothing changed with the revisions. We sought to clarify, for both buyers and dealers, what the law was regarding marijuana use and firearm possession.”

The latest ATF announcement comes after a U.S.  court ruling earlier this year upheld a federal ban on gun sales to anyone holding a medical marijuana card. The ruling covered nine western states.

 

3 comments on “ATF reinforces gun ban for marijuana users
  1. Jaime on

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    November 23, 2016     
    ATF reinforces gun ban for marijuana users

    The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is clarifying its position on marijuana and reaffirming its stance against allowing MMJ patients and recreational users from owning own firearms. OK. THEN MMJ ADVOCATES/PATIENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO “REAFFIRM” THEIR STANCE RE: THE ISSUE OF OWNING FIREARMS AS MMJ PATIENTS. LET’S TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A BIT. IT MUST FOLLOW, THAT ANY ABUSER OF ALCOHOL, SAY ONE THAT HAS JUST ONE DUI ( FORGET ABOUT MAIMING OR KILLING SOMEONE IN THE ACT..), OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PHYSICAL ASSAULT ON A PARTNER, OR EVEN ON A STRANGER AT A BAR, WOULD HAVE HIS/HER FIREARMS STRIPPED FROM THEM. AND, THEN ADDING A FIVE YEAR ENHANCEMENT TO THEIR SENTENCE, IF ONE IS METED OUT. MAKES SENSE. SAME WITH TOBACCO. IF A PREGNANT WOMAN, WHOM MAY BE ADDICTED CIGARETTES ( NICOTINE ), GIVES BIRTH TO AN UNDERWEIGHT BABY AND/OR A FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME CHILD AS A RESULT OF AN ABUSIVE DRINKING HABIT, SHE SHOULD ALSO HAVE 5 YRS ADDED TO HER SENTENCE SHOULD SHE HAVE HAD IN HER POSSESSION A FIREARM AT THE TIME THAT SHE WAS PREGNANT/GAVE BIRTH TO THE PERMANENTLY AFFECTED CHILD. RIGHT? MAKES TOTAL SENSE….ACCORDING TO ATF’S LOGIC. THAT’S BECAUSE THE AFOREMENTIONED EXAMPLES ARE ALL PART OF ATF’S ACRONYM. MMJ ISN’T, HOWEVER. THAT JUST GOT SLIPPED IN SOMEWHERE AS SILENT LETTERS ( MMJ ) THAT AREN’T SEEN, NOR PRONOUNCED. THE INTERESTING AND STUPEFYING THING IS, IS THAT ALCOHOL AND NICOTINE HAVE PROVEN THE AFOREMENTIONED EXAMPLES TIME AND TIME AGAIN. EVERYDAY. REAL AND LASTING, DEVASTATING HARM HAPPENING FOR LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF YEARS IN THIS COUNTRY. BUT NOT MMJ. FORGOT TO ADD: PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. ABUSED ALL THE TIME. THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO RESTRICTION PLACED ON FIREARM OWNERSHIP. EVEN IF THEY OD! AND, KILLED SOMEONE ON THE ROAD FOR INSTANCE.

    SO, WHAT THE ATF IS TRYING TO TELL THIS COUNTRY, IS THAT IF YOU ARE A GENERALLY LAW ABIDING, UPRIGHT CITIZEN, AND SAY A HUSBAND AND FATHER OF 3, WHOM HAS A MEDICAL RECOMMENDATION, AND IS ACTIVELY USING MMJ FOR AN AILMENT ( AND IT REALLY WORKS, WITH HARDLY ANY SIDE/ADVERSE EFFECTS! ) AND SOME ASSHOLE BREAKS INTO HIS HOME AT NIGHT TO COMMIT THEFT AND TO POSSIBLY HARM SOMEONE; THE DAD GETS UP IN TIME TO GRAB HIS SHOTGUN AND BLOWS THIS BASTARD AWAY AS THE THREAT IS LEVELING HIS AR-15 ON HIM AND HIS FAMILY….THE DOJ/ATF AND WHO KNOWS WHO ELSE IS GOING TO WANT A PIECE OF THIS GUY ( POTENTIALLY RIPPING THIS FAMILY APART ) FOR PROTECTING HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY. BUT IF THIS FATHER ( OR ANYONE ELSE PLAYING BY THE RULES, GOES AFTER THE HOME INVADER WITH A POCKET KNIFE/BASEBALL BAT/HIS FISTS?….AND GET’S KILLED BY THE THIEF…HEY, THAT’S OK TO ATF. THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT’S CALLED? IT’S CALLED: BULLSHIT. AND THE WORLD KNOWS IT. SO MUST THE ATF ALSO KNOW IT. BUT IT DOESN’T CARE TO UP THE ANTE WITH A LITTLE MORE INTIMIDATION: THERE’S A NEW REPUBLICAN ADMIN, ON THE HORIZON. A QUACKED APPELLATE COURT ( HOPEFULLY A TEMPORARY ONE ) DECISION, THAT MAY HAVE RECENTLY EMBOLDENED THE ATF TO REASSERT ITS MISLED MANDATE. BUT, MOREOVER HOPING TO GET MORE FUNDING TO ENGAGE IN MORE B.S. WORK AND WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
    The ban could mean millions of dollars in lost sales for medical marijuana dispensaries in particular if patients decline to renew their MMJ cards so they purchase a gun. The warning could put a chill on some rec sales, too.
    Form 4473, the federal Firearms Transaction Record, includes an updated reminder that gun buyer applicants should be aware marijuana remains illegal at the federal level – even when it’s legal at the state level – according to the Denver Post.
    The ATF’s revised document goes into circulation on Jan. 16, 2017, with language explicitly stating “the use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.”
    “Since more states have legalized medicinal and recreational marijuana use since 2012, ATF took the opportunity to clarify existing federal law regarding marijuana use and gun ownership,” Lisa Meiman, a public information officer at the ATF’s Denver Field Division, told the Post. “Nothing changed with the revisions. We sought to clarify, for both buyers and dealers, what the law was regarding marijuana use and firearm possession.” SO, WHAT I’M GETTING FROM THIS IS, IS THAT IF A 30+ YR INTERNAL MEDICINE DOC, STANFORD/U.C./JOHNS HOPKINS GRAD., ISSUES A RECOMMENDATION TO A PATIENT….. THE ATF OBVIOUSLY KNOWS BETTER THAN THIS PHYSICIAN WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PERSON’S GENERAL HEALTH/WELLNESS, AND HIS PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE AND SAFETY ( WHEN IT COMES TO OWNING A FIREARM FOR SELF DEFENSE ). RIGHT? A RESOUNDING: BULLSHIT! WHAT THE ATF IS ESSENTIALLY DOING, IS TELLING THIS DOC NOT TO DO HIS/HER JOB. ACTUALLY, SAYING TO THEM THAT’S NOT HOW TO DO THEIR JOB. WITH ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS IN FACT….OTHER THAN THE SPECIAL INTEREST BIG PHARMA’S/POLICE/CORRECTIONAL UNIONS LOBBYING THE CONGRESS TO CREATE THESE KIND OF AGENCIES TO PROTECT/PAD THEIR INTERESTS: BIG PHARMA TO PUNISH ( VIA CONGRESSIONAL LEGISLATION ) THOSE THAT DARE TAKE SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE TO WHAT THEY’RE SELLING. THE POLICE/CORRECTIONS ARE THERE TO COME UP FROM BEHIND TO SEAL THE DEAL. AND THEY GET PAID ( TAX DOLLARS ) FOR THAT B.S. WORK. AGAIN, AS INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS, WE REALISTICALLY HAVE NO SAY ON HOW THAT PART GETS DECIDED. WE DON’T EVEN KNOW WHEN IT’S EVEN BEING LEGISLATED, FEDERALLY. LEGISLATION THAT’S GOING TO BE BAD FOR THE VAST MAJORITY, IS USUALLY VERY QUIETLY DONE.

    YOU PEOPLE AT ATF, ARE YET ANOTHER REMINDER OF JUST HOW F**KED UP OUR FEDERAL GOVT’S PRIORITIES ARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE GENERAL CITIZENRY’S WELFARE. AT LEAST AT THE LOCAL AND STATE LEVELS THERE ARE TOOLS CALLED INITIATIVES/REFERENDUMS THAT DON’T TAKE FOREVER TO GET ENACTED. THAT’S BECAUSE THEY’RE GENERATED BY THE PUBLIC. WE DON’T HAVE THAT OPTION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. HENCE THE “CHRONIC” AND INCREASING DISSONANCE/PROBLEM AT THAT LEVEL OF OUR GOVT. IT’S WHAT’S BEEN DRAGGING THIS NATION DOWN FOR DECADES. SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT THE ATF IS ALSO SAYING TO STATES IS THAT THEIR REFERENDUMS/INITIATIVES ARE MEANINGLESS EXERCISES IN FUTILITY IN TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS FOR ( THE BETTER IN ) THOSE RESPECTIVE STATES. ESP. WHEN TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS THAT ARE ( BY CONSENSUS )VERY BROKEN IN THAT STATE. BUT THE ATF KNOW’S BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THOSE STATES, TOO. RIGHT? MESSAGE TO ATF: MMJ IS A STATE’S RIGHTS ISSUE. IT’S NOT A FEDERAL ONE. NEVER HAS BEEN. IT WAS MADE UP. WHERE’S THE “FEDERAL” SENSE OF URGENCY AROUND MMJ AND GUN OWNERSHIP?? ANSWER THAT, AND YOU’LL QUICKLY HAVE YOUR ANSWER. TACKLE THE REAL PROBLEMS ( ORGANIZED CRIME/CARTELS/ETC. ). NOT THE MADE UP ONES. TELL THE SPECIAL INTERESTS AND THE CONGRESSMEN/WOMEN THAT DO THEIR BIDDING ( AND NOT OURS ) TO GO F***K THEMSELVES. YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE PUBLIC’S INTEREST. NOT THEIRS.
    The latest ATF announcement comes after a U.S.  court ruling earlier this year upheld a federal ban on gun sales to anyone holding a medical marijuana card. The ruling covered nine western states.

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  2. Hastings RH on

    self defense is a basic human right and the second amendment guarantees this right -the court is wrong and clearly political -hopefully an appeal is now working it’s way through the system? Trump is very strong on the second amendment so he may well tell the ATF to sod off -we know Obama and Clinton hate guns except when their security guards are protecting them -so hypocritical..

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  3. howard wooldridge on

    The Board of Directors at the NRA are well-aware of the loss of 2nd Amendment rights of MJ users….so far, a big yawn from the NRA…shameful

    I am surprised the gun makers and bullet makers haven’t used their influence to force the NRA to act.

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